Norbert Hackman of Fort Atkinson recalled his father telling of Chris Schmitt and Ed Hackman, his father, employing Winnebago in the depression era and the frequent encounters at fishing spots on the Turkey River near the former Indian Subagency. Adrian Kuennen spoke quietly and eloquently of Joe Kuennen, his father, encountering Winnebago elders visiting sacred spaces and burial sites, and actually feeling the presence of spirits when he walked these lands.

Adrian electrified the large audience: “My father and the other school children in St. Lucas, loved the highlight of each autumn season. They watched from the school windows and street as a long caravan of Winnebago men on colorful ponies, followed by an endless stream of wagons and carts, and finally the women and children, were leaving their summer encampment on former Indian Subagency land near the Turkey River, passed through St. Lucas. They were joined by Winnebago staying along the Little Turkey River south of Waucoma and the entire band headed eastward to winter quarters along the Mississippi River and in Wisconsin.